This is part one of a three-part article on the ongoing effort to find male descendants of Thomas, Richard and William Thayer/Tayer. They were three brothers from Thornbury, England, who are the immigrant ancestors for the majority of Thayers/Tayers in America. We are looking for their male descendants to encourage them to join the Thayer Y-DNA project. Currently, the Thayer Y-DNA Project has test results from many descendants of all three brothers, but several existing lines are not tested. In addition, more testing is needed on lines where testing has been done. Both efforts are important if we are ever going to use Y-DNA test results be able to help identify Thayers/Tayers who lack complete paper genealogic trails. With results from more lines that produced male heirs, we may be able to identify unknown Thayers.
In all the articles, numbers follow some names. These numbers indicate generations, with the immigrant being number ONE (1). The following numbers (2, 3, 4, etc.) indicate the number of the generations descending down from the immigrant. The dates in parenthesis after a name are birth years.
Part one will focus on descendants of Thomas (1596), part two will focus on Richard (1601), and part three will focus on William (1605).
Thomas’s (1) son Thomas (2) had two sons who produced male heirs. We have Y-DNA results from one line and are looking for male descendants from the line in number 1 below. Thomas’s (1) son Ferdinando (2) had seven sons who produced male heirs. We have Y-DNA results from six of the seven sons and are looking for male descendants from line number 2 below. More testing is needed on all Ferdinando lines. Thomas’s (1) son Shadrach (2) had three sons. We have Y-DNA results from the Shadrach (2), Ephraim (3) line, but might benefit from more testing as in line number 3 below. The Shadrach (2), Samuel (3) (1667) line ended with no further descendants. We are looking for male descendants from Shadrach’s (2) son William (3) as in line numbers 4, 5, and 6 below.
We need your help to find people willing to be Y-DNA tested in the following lines:
1. Thomas, Thomas, Ebenezer (1665), Ebenezer (1692), Ebenezer (1721), Ebenezer (1746), Ebenezer Francis (1784)
2. Thomas, Ferdinando, Samuel, Benjamin (1709), Samuel (1734), William Turpin (1771), William Turpin (1779), Guillermo Thayer-Garreton (1830), Carlo Victor Luis Thayer-Ojeda (1874), William Turpin Thayer-Arteaga (1917). This line is in Chile.
3. Thomas, Shadrach, Ephraim (1669), James (1712), William (1759), William (1783), William Bainbridge (1814).
4. Thomas, Shadrach, William (1675), Jonathan (1703), Jonathan (1734), Jonathan (1809), Edward Jonathan (1831).
5. Thomas, Shadrach, William (1675), William (1705), Zephanianh (1736), Jerijah (1762), Vinal (1792).
6. Thomas, Shadrach, William (1675), Oliver (1707), Oliver (1747), Jonathan (1779), Stephen (1798).
If you or know someone interested in joining the Thayer Y-DNA Project, go to the Thayer Family DNA project website:www.familytreedna.com/public/thayer and click on the Join link at the top right of the page and fill in the requested information. I will respond to your request and you will be sent a link with information on how to purchase a test kit. Links at the top left of the website provide information and will answer many of your questions. The Y-DNA111 test is recommended for people joining the Thayer DNA Project as it provides the largest test data. The cost for the Y-DNA 111 test is $249 and the Y-DNA 37 test is $119. The Big Y-700 test is $449.00 is the most detailed test. A few members have upgraded to Big Y.
Y-DNA tests the paternal line only. Y-DNA mutates very slowly, so your Y chromosome looks nearly identical to your father's Y-DNA. Your Y-Chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) can trace your father, his father, his father’s father, and so forth. It offers a clear path from you to a known, or likely, direct paternal ancestor.
Please contact Lloyd M. Thayer at dna1640@hotmail.com or call me at 302-652-7620
This is part two of a three-part article on the ongoing effort to find male descendants from Thayer/Tayer lines where no Y-DNA testing has been done and to encourage them to have their Y-DNA tested. Part one, in Thayer Quarterly (TQ) March 2022, focused on descendants of Thomas (1596), part two will focus on Richard (1601), and part three will focus on William (1605). Currently, the Thayer Y-DNA Project has test results from descendants of Thomas, Richard, and William, but many lines are not tested. In addition, more testing is needed on lines where some testing has been done. Both efforts are important if we are ever going to use Y-DNA test results in order to be able to help identify Thayers/Tayers who lack complete paper genealogic trails. With results from more lines that produced male heirs, we may be able to identify unknown Thayers.
In all the articles, numbers follow some names. These numbers indicate generations, with the immigrant being number ONE (1). The following numbers (2, 3, 4, etc.) indicate the number of the generations descending down from the immigrant. The dates in parenthesis after a name are birth years.
Richard1 had two sons, Richard2 and Nathaniel2. Richard2 had three sons who produced male heirs: Richard3, Nathaniel3, and Cornelius3. We have Y-DNA results from two of these lines, but would encourage more testing in numbers 1, 2, 3, and 4 below. We have no testing from male heirs of Richard1, Richard2, Cornelius3. Numbers 5, 6, and 7 below are lines with living Richard1, Richard2, Cornelius3 heirs.
Richard’s1 son Nathaniel2 had four sons who produced male heirs. There are only living heirs from one son. We have results from that one line, Richard1, Nathaniel2, Cornelius3, number 8 below, and additional Y-DNA testing from descendants from number 8 below would be helpful.
1 Richard, Richard, Richard (1655), John (1687), Abiah (1729), Oliver (1752), Eliphalet (1776).
2. Richard, Richard, Nathaniel (1657), Hezekiah (1696), Noah (1745), Obediah Allen (1772)
3. Richard, Richard, Nathaniel (1657), Daniel (1684), Benjamin (1744), John Clark (1783), William (1812).
4. Richard, Richard, Nathaniel (1657), Zachariah 1689, Zachariah (1718), Isaac (1741), Isaac (1763).
5. Richard, Richard, Cornelius (1670), Gideon (1700), Gideon (“Long Gid”) (1732), Gideon (1770)
6. Richard, Richard, Cornelius (1670), Eleazer (1710), Richard (1731), Richard (1767), Richard (1799)
7. Richard, Richard, Cornelius (1670), Jeremiah (1716), Jeremiah (1754), Theophilus (1778/9) Wales (1805)
8. Richard, Nathaniel, Cornelius (1684), Nathaniel (1710), Rev Ebenezer (1734), Ebenezer (1767).
If you or know someone interested in joining the Thayer Y-DNA Project, go to the Thayer Family DNA project website: www.familytreedna.com/public/thayer and click on the Join link at the top right of the page and fill in the requested information. I will respond to your request and you will be sent a link with information on how to purchase a test kit. Links at the top left of the website provide information and will answer many of your questions. The Y-DNA111 test is recommended for people joining the Thayer DNA Project as it provides the largest test data. The cost for the Y-DNA 111 test is $249 and the Y-DNA 37 test is $119. The Big Y-700 test is $449.00 is the most detailed test. A few members have upgraded to Big Y.
Y-DNA tests the paternal line only. Y-DNA mutates very slowly, so your Y chromosome looks nearly identical to your father's Y-DNA. Your Y-Chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) can trace your father, his father, his father’s father, and so forth. It offers a clear path from you to a known, or likely, direct paternal ancestor.
Please contact Lloyd M. Thayer at dna1640@hotmail.com or call me at 302-652-7620
Find Your Missing Ancestral Link
Part 3 - Seeking Male Thayer Participants for DNA Testing
By Lloyd M. Thayer
This is part three of a three-part article on the ongoing effort to find male descendants from Thayer/Tayer lines where no Y-DNA testing has been done and to encourage them to have their Y-DNA tested. Part one, in Thayer Quarterly (TQ) March 2022, focused on descendants of Thomas (1596), and part two, in TQ Summer 2022 focused on descendants of Richard (1601). This final part focuses on descendants of William (1605). [Dates in parenthesis following a name reflects the year of birth.]
Currently, the Thayer Y-DNA Project has test results from descendants of the colonial immigrants Thomas, Richard, andWilliam Thayer, however, many lines are not tested. In addition, more testing is needed on lines where some testing has been done. Both efforts are important if we are ever going to use Y-DNA test results be able to help identify Thayers/Tayers who lack complete paper genealogic trails. With results from more lines that produced male heirs, we may be able to identify “unplaced” Thayers, meaning those with no known connection to one of the three immigrant ancestors from Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England.
In all the previous articles, numbers follow some names. These numbers indicate generations, with the immigrant being number ONE (1). The following numbers (2, 3, 4, etc.) indicate the number of the generations descending down from the immigrant.
William1 had two sons that are believed to have male heirs, Nathaniel2 and Benjamin2. William’s1 son Nathaniel2 had four sons who produced male heirs, Jonathan3, Nathaniel3, William3, and Isaac3. We have Y-DNA results on one of these lines: William1, Nathaniel2, Jonathan3, and are looking for male descendants on lines 1, 2, and 3 below:
William’s1 son, Benjamin2, had two sons, John3 (1675) and Benjamin3, who had children. We are looking for male descendants on lines 4, 5, and 6, as illustrated below:
We need your help to find people willing to be Y-DNA tested in the following lines:
1. William, Nathaniel, Nathaniel (1668) TAYER.
2. William, Nathaniel, William (1680) TAYER.
3. William, Nathaniel, Isaac (1688) TAYER.
4. William, Benjamin, John (1675), John (1706), Joseph TAYER (1745).
5. William, Benjamin, John (1675), William TAYER (1710).
6. William, Benjamin, Benjamin, John, John, Benjamin, Gershom Remington TAYER.
It should be noted that a majority of the descendants of the Immigrant William TAYER retained the “TAYER” surname spelling, but not all. Other of William’s descendants adopted the “THAYER” surname spelling. The original name was pronounced without the “H.”
If you, or know someone you know may be interested in joining the Thayer Y-DNA Project, go to the Thayer Family DNA project website: www.familytreedna.com/public/thayer and click on the Join link at the top right of the page and fill in the requested information. I will respond to your request and you will be sent a link with information on how to purchase a test kit. Links at the top left of the webpage provide information and will answer many of your questions. The Y-DNA111 test is recommended for people joining the Thayer DNA Project, as it provides the largest test data. The cost for the Y-DNA 111 test is $249 and the Y-DNA 37 test is $119. The Big Y-700 test is $449.00 and is the most detailed test. A few members have upgraded to the “Big Y.”
Y-DNA tests the paternal line only. Y-DNA mutates very slowly, so your Y chromosome looks nearly identical to your father's Y-DNA. Your Y-Chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) can trace your father, his father, his father’s father, and so forth. It offers a clear path from you to a known, or likely, direct paternal ancestor, possibly back to the earliest known Thayer in the 1500’s in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England.
Please contact Lloyd M. Thayer at dna1640@hotmail.com or call me at 302-652-7620.
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